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2. About 2020 Presidential Debate Possible Future Rules & Possibilities

With the Political Debates the Moderators Share the Rules…

…I’m not sure if candidates are made aware of those earlier OR not.

The rules and more with debates and writing are done to assist people to have the ability to share as well as to get the time others do to share in these situations and with these events. Debates are generally prepared to bring out various opinions on confrontational OR even conflicting opinions & ideas pertinent with matters. This allows the various issues to be brought forth that may be hiding in the background of other aspects with issues & events.

For instance the, official, results of the first debate between Trump & Biden were based on the debate styles as well as how the candidates acted in front of the audience.

There are contentions about who won the debate, but I’m also wondering if Trump was suffering fever and possibly other ‘cold OR virus’ symptoms. When I am high in temperature, having a sore throat, having aching lungs, and not feeling good there is less patience that I display because of  my body suffering stress & other abnormal physical issues.

College Debate Differences to the Political Debates

While in college the debate plans were put forward months before the debates began.

  • The issues were topics of interest with life in society.
  • The rules were added when the debate assignments were handed out,
  • we had weeks to prepare and
  • to practice these with the team works.

The debate styles were expected to be kept, as part of the grade for the class, for the Presidential & VP debates

  • the people are trying to get info as well as learn more about their candidates.
  • The debate results will be determined with the election results as long as individuals that vote remotely also make sure their votes were taken accurately, AND
  • if the boxes aren’t stuffed with false voting.

Rules for U.S. Political Debates

The rules for the U.S. political debates are really loose, they are mostly time rules AND let the other candidate speak aspects. This also means that the moderators type of questions do NOT have to be specifically answered, but it also means this isn’t a free for all conversation. 

The Ten Simple Rules for Debating, by Nullus Maximus Posted on April 21, 2016, and blogged about by me in the previous post which shared some practical guidance for debating as well as logistical issues that impact the results of the debates for the audiences.

So here are some links to research I’ve done on debating and on debate rules:

Presidential Debate Rules

At times these are located after the debates, but so far I’ve not found the rules listed OR shared for the public for the next Presidential debate which is only 7 days away.

Presidential Debate Commission Debate Rules [not located with searching]

Are hard to find…it must make it difficult for the candidates also if those aren’t shared beforehand. Microphone cutoffs are being considered for future presidential debates, and the VP debates are likely to enforce those actions.

Who is and how this should be handled is a different issue and will be influenced by how the ‘rules’ are established. For instance if it’s a timed debate, will there be microphone time stoppers pre-programmed which means the moderator can’t shift things? Will there be a pre-time ending button the debaters can click to allow the moderator & other debater speaking time?

But it’s definitly under consideration, because the rules of the debate were broken repeatedly.

Other General Debate Info

Like my college debate which was a team process there are debate processes and styles dependent on the types of debating and locations with those. The issues that come into political debates may be considered with these rules, but the rules are what the moderators state…Timing rules.

Conclusion

As you can see there are multiple aspects that are considered with debates, but for the political debates the people, the audience, the third party are who the debates are for and are about. This setup and change of debate styling may mean that moderators will get more control AND that will mean less ‘for the people’ and more ‘about the system’ actions taking place.

1. About 2020 Presidential Debates: Debates Factors

Thank you for reading this info, for your information this page contains over 3,500 words…so it’s not a simple tweet OR message. More info about debates has been prepared and is linked by me here.

Debates Factors

The rules & more with debates & writing are done to assist people to have the ability to share as well as to get the time others do to share in these situations & with these events. I have read info about debates, plus has spent A LITTLE time debating, there were issues with the debates that were partially moderator faults AND partially candidate faults. This could be because all the candidates fell into the ‘it’s allowed, why don’t I’ failure.

Debates are generally prepared to bring out various opinions on important issues & matters. This isn’t a way to discuss things courteously, because it allows the various issues to be brought forth that may be hiding in the background of other aspects with issues & events. In addition it’s done to find out different aspects and opinions about issues. While I was in college there were debates on issues that had YES & NO variables, but the Presidential debates and the VP debate didn’t seem as cut and dried.

Results of the 1st Trump & Biden Debate of 2020

The results of the first debate between Trump & Biden were based on the debate styles as well as how the candidates acted in front of the audience. This is where I wish there was a debate style that was easier to follow, I got super upset and turned the channel to a non-debate share.

There are contentions about who won the debate, but I’m also wondering if Trump was suffering fever and possibly other ‘cold/ virus’ symptoms. When I am high in temperature, having a sore throat, having aching lungs, and also with high sugar there is less of a calm attitude and my actions aren’t as easy as normal because of  body suffering stress and issues.

My ONE Debate During College

While in college the debate plans were put forward months before the debates began. The issues were topics of interest with life in society. The rules were added when the debate assignments were handed out, we had weeks to prepare and to practice these with the team works.

The debate styles were expected to be kept, as part of the grade for the class, for the presidential & VP debates the people are trying to get info as well as learn more about their candidates. The debate results will be determined with the election results as long as individuals that vote remotely also make sure their votes were taken accurately, AND if the boxes aren’t stuffed with false voting.

There are different types of rules and patterns with different styles of debates. I only had one debate in college and it was one topic that she chose to support that she debated on with her team. There are various rules that were part of the team debate that weren’t part of the presidential OR vice presidential debates because those were multiple topic debates with single debaters. The classical debate, as shared by H.W. Wilson’s 1957 book, is a team debate this means the rules with Presidential and VP debates aren’t normalized.

Below are some links to debates types & rules variations, but Ten Simple Rules for Debating, by Nullus Maximus Posted on April 21, 2016 has given me a way to show how the Presidential & VP debating was performed badly. Any of the info under the heading below that’s in [square brackets] has been added by me, the links are all to the post with the title shared above.

Practical Debate Guidelines

[Debates are expressions of opinion and facts that are based on evidence as well as emotion. BUT the candidates that are parts of the debate should work to remember that they are sharing for others to learn, to find out, to know about, not for their opinions to be loved, but for their opinions to be shared with facts & perspectives that the 3rd parties can relate to & understand. These actions help others to look beyond their emotions to the aspects of issues & perspectives that can influence their participation towards the OR with the aspects under discussion.]

Ten Simple Rules for Debating, by Nullus Maximus Posted on April 21, 2016 with my comments added [in square brackets] about the 2020 debates actions and her opinions of those debate procedures:

A significant amount of my recent work has been written in response to arguments made by other libertarian thinkers. As such, the time is ripe for a guide to how this is best done. This article will take the reader through the process of an exchange of ideas from start to finish, and explain my ten simple rules for debating. Those who follow these rules are guaranteed to become more successful debaters, as well as less stressed and overworked.

  1. Pick your battles. While a person of little renown may have enough time to engage with whomever one pleases at whatever length one desires, people who have less time to spend engaging in debates must choose which opponents to engage and which to ignore, as well as how long to engage each opponent. It is best to have a consistent rubric for this, which will be discussed further in rules 2 and 9.

[For every moderator question multiple topic areas are brought up, notes can be taken, and answers to those topics can be shifted, BUT the audience is the focus of this sharing and the reason info is shared.]

2. Engage only those worthy of being engaged. Some people are capable of maintaining a rational discourse, while other people cannot seem to communicate without resorting to personal attacks, profanity, threats, and other such uncivil behavior.

[Taking issue with the personal insults is stupid, for the debating unless the attack is a focus of the issues, it’s better to bring the issues to the fore & keep those as focus for the answers. The more time Trump says “and you Mr. Biden OR Biden says, “and you President Trump” are seconds being wasted in contending things that may not be worthy of commenting on.]

Some people have interesting and novel insights, while other people insist upon bringing up points which have been refuted a thousand times.

[Previously refuted issues and more can be prepared for, with info links, like the Presidential website OR Biden’s site with facts that can be mentioned as check the facts info, with the facts summarized if they are pertinent for the topics. Care is needed to not make the debates boring though.]

Some people are experts in the fields of which they speak, while other people do not stick to their lasts. Some people make the effort to properly support an argument, while other people Gish gallop. A person’s behavior in this regard is a strong indicator of whether that person is worthy of one’s attention.

[The debate facts and comments should be based on what is pertinent with the issues and the results of those issues. For instance when it comes to climate control, which Harris & Pence discussed, there is the issue of the California Wildfires partially built because of the lack of forest management. In addition there are issues raised with how Biden plans to raise taxes & cut Trump tax cuts supported by Harris, Senator of CA. A State that’s the most in debt for the whole nation.]

Note that other debaters will judge you by a similar standard, so be the kind of person that someone else would be willing to debate.

[This is Trump’s last time going for President, Biden is also likely to suffer such severe Alzheimer’s that he won’t be debating as a presidential candidate again. But the candidates are ALL planning to work as representatives for the U.S. in the coming 4 years, so who are they going to be for us the people of the nation? So this isn’t an issue of the other future debaters, this is an issue about how the American people will percieve their candidates with the upcoming elections.]

3. Do your research. If you know a topic in great detail, you will be more able to counter any argument your opponent may make.

An uninformed debater is an incompetent debater.

An unprepared debater is a sloppy debater.

Also, make sure that the sources you study are reliable.

[Accurately quoted information, like “210,000 Corona Deaths” with the Corona death reports being faked with flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, & other deaths being added to the Corona death reports as shared by Senator Harris on 10/7/20 are ‘presently determined’ as facts, may be contention issues that aren’t a value to contend with a debate.]

If the opponent is competent, a misinformed debater will be an embarrassed debater.

[Argumentative debaters often have little fact to back up their shares, they can win if they bring up issues that cause arguments that actually don’t discuss issues that they are ignorant of OR have no info about, but smart debaters who have no facts are also likely to prepare to be contentious enough to cause arguments and side track the opponent debaters.]

4. Do not [speak] to convince the opponent; [SPEAK] TO CONVINCE A THIRD PARTY. In many cases, a person worthy of being engaged will be firmly entrenched in a position, and it may even be against the nature of the format for your opponent to come over to your side. Focus instead on convincing the audience, whether they be people watching a live debate or reading a correspondence. This methodology is stated explicitly in some debate formats, but it is sound strategy regardless.

[At times debates can utilize visuals also, but this is dependent on the debate rules and more. With any debate that gets read like Presidential Debate transcripts may be, there’s a need to remember that many will read some of the info, so what info is shared that’s worth reading? If there were visuals for the presidential debates OR other debates there is also a need to make sure the visuals aren’t time wasters NOR are they hard to understand, AND they should also be verifiable for the audiences.

For my one college debate, in 2013, about the put into law ACA, U.S. healthcare law, which I was against, I used the photo image of the new healthcare law mass from Senator McConnell’s office & Steve Hayward, of Obamacare regs, which is now removed from this link & then the 11,000 info with the line by Rhapsodie based on an approximate mass versus the  real size of the U.S. Constitution.

The team used some images, but like good shares we controlled those, AND we also took the time to prepare specified shares so the focus was on what we talked about not the visuals which were only backup supporting what we were talking about.

Also, UNLIKE the presidential debates my debate was done with a team against another team supporting the opposite of the issue.

This meant that we had a lot of time for a single topic, we also had this as part of our class, which meant how we followed the debate rules impacted the grade results with our debating, so there wasn’t the over speak allowed unless we wanted to reduce our grades.]

5. Base your arguments upon logic (logos), not emotion (pathos) or authority (ethos). A debate is properly won by using reason and evidence to demonstrate that one’s position is superior to that of one’s opponent.

Detouring into appeals to emotion can help one connect with the audience or provoke an opponent into a misstep, BUT this does NOT advance one’s case in a rigorous manner [unless it’s driving into the point of the topic being discussed OR the issues working to be shared].

Appealing to the authority of oneself or someone else can dissuade a weak opponent or convince a less intelligent audience, but attempting this against a strong opponent in front of a knowledgeable audience is a recipe for disaster.

[For example with my college debate, with the team against the national healthcare, I could have used information of my own life, BUT as a team member my focus was on an aspect of the topic NOT all the aspects of the topic. With the topic I worked to share the aspect of this issue that were likely more relatable by others. The legal aspects which was part of my debate is a lot smaller than the multiple issues the Presidential Debates are contending.]

6. Relentlessly attack logical fallacies and weak arguments. It is important to [figure] out every shortcoming that you can find in your opponent’s case. Doing so will make you more skilled in identifying logical fallacies & weak arguments, [pointing these out]… means that opponents will be less able to get away with sloppy reasoning in future debates. [This will also support your arguments more.]

Do not worry about being pedantic; your job is to find all weaknesses in your opponent’s case & illuminate them to make your case appear stronger by comparison. [But you need to take care that the contentions aren’t boring the audience. The topic focus & issues that are contended can be multitudinous, that’s why note taking is so important. That’s also why taking the time to find the focuses, practice the issues debating with various types of personal opponents who aren’t on stage contenders, plus also possibly also summarizing additional info that’s not focus, can assist in leading the sharing.

Instead of just saying,  “You are wrong about…” OR wasting time in contentious words, taking the time to make sure to share “the facts about…” then sharing those, can reduce time waste as well as make more points supporting your sharing.]

7. Focus on the task at hand. A debate can easily go off track, especially if the subject matter is wide, deep, or both. Avoid making arguments that neither support your case nor attack your opponent’s case. Only go into the weeds if your opponent takes you there [and staying there is a necessity]; the person who begins the foray into many different minutiae is usually running out of solid logic and evidence.

[The task of the debate is harder to focus on if an individual is so involved in it OR so emotional about it, but it’s also a reason they should be more prepared to support their sharing well for others who aren’t as involved OR impacted with the issues.

If a person is mowing their lawn and trimming their hedge that’s the focus, if they go to the field because there’s a pretty flower OR a dead tree to take care of, the lawn work isn’t getting done and the field work is off topic at this time. The pretty flower OR the dead tree can be ‘works’ planned OR done later…BUT they will take time from the present task. If George takes Mary to the field to discuss the tree, they are both not on the lawn…It may be good if Mary can say to George, “That’s not the focus now, here’s what’s being discussed…”, BUT at times the issue is so important it should be discussed. Like if the dead tree threatened the yard walk.]

8. Destroy arguments, not people. Be respectful of your [audience, so] at least be as respectful of your opponent as he or she is of you[, or be as respectful of them as you would the audience]. Resorting to personal attacks (or escalating them if they are already in use) is a refuge of a person with weak arguments, and it will make people less willing to consider your case on its merits. Remember, your job is to defeat your opponent’s arguments, not his or her character.

[A debater that falls to the attacking actions of their opponent actually fails in their debating. An issue with the candidate debates is that the candidates are suffering personal attacks because of personal stands and personal issues. These Presidential debates should be about the Presidential position BUT attacks on Trump through the last years are continuing with the debates.]

9. Know when to quit.

There comes a point in every debate at which further discussion has diminishing returns or even becomes completely pointless. It is important to learn to identify that point and stop there.

Sometimes this will be clear; an opponent may even announce that a particular round will be his or her closing argument. If this happens, respond with a closing argument of your own and be finished; do not repeatedly pummel the opponent after he or she has left the debate.

This may also be the case in a timed or response-limited debate, in which case one should abide by the rules of the format.

[This should be considered more with the future Presidential debates, because many people are only getting media otherwise, so the facts that are shared about the issues for Americans are super pertinent to share & discuss.]

In other cases, it will be a matter of personal judgment to decide to walk away from a debate.

[A really difficult issue with the Presidential debates is the bias of the moderators, which means they are driving towards points and issues that they hold and want answers to. This is difficult because:

        1. They have their own political opinions [they would have to be dead not to have an opinion].
        2. There are multiple sides to every question & how it’s presented;

These topics have been so complicated the issues can’t be shown as headers for viewers to know what the queries were, this also likely means the candidates aren’t given a clear enough query to debate.

The topics have so much preceding info, that they influence the question and what it is. While some info is useful, the opinions expressed by the moderators take the info out of debate and into discussion.

Point 10 follows below, after the Debate Query Examples.

Debate Query Examples

For BAD examples are non-debate queries NOT debate queries which have sides:

What are your opinions on how the opposition has handled Corona Virus’ issues?

What has your party done against Corona Virus?

What do you say about how the protests are being handled in Chicago?

What are the issues with the facts about Corona Virus as are being reported?]

Instead debate queries which have sides, should have ways that the sides can each be distinguished, these were some of the 2013 debate issues that were discussed in my Business Ethics class at Alfred State College under Professor Damrath:

Does the Obama Health Care System benefit the Americans?

Should Recreational Drugs be Legalized

Should illegal aliens be granted amnesty

Is Employer Monitoring Email Justified

Plus others

The debates with unclear queries, issues that are only parts of the debates that have been avoided by the moderators. The topics should educate and inform the audiences, while the actions of the debaters can also educate and inform the audiences those can also cause audience members to act like I did.

I was so upset with the early part of the first presidential debate she shifted the channel. Because of making notes with the VP debate and because of wanting to learn about Harris, I continued through the debate. At least taking the time to type out notes kept me from getting too upset about the lack of info that was really shared.]

Finally the LAST of the Ten Simple Rules for Debating

by Nullus Maximus Posted on April 21, 2016 with Rhapsodie’s comments added about the 2020 debates actions

10. Handle both defeat and victory appropriately. No one likes a sore loser or a bad winner.

If you lose a debate, reflect on how and why you lost. Then, take the necessary steps to avoid losing in the same manner in a future debate. This may involve more study of the debate topic, [especially if it’s one that will arise again,] reviewing logical fallacies, or even changing one’s position on an issue.

If you win, do not gloat or boast. Accept victory graciously, then check your discourse for arguments that could have been stronger or presented more effectively.]

My Conclusion

Each presidential & VP debate is a chance to show the American people who their candidates are AND how they respond to conflicting opinions & plans. I’m concerned about this election because I fear democrats will stuff the polls with false votes. So, with the VP debate,

I’m glad Pence didn’t answer the hand over question, if President Trump steps down because there are stuffed votes it would mean liars will be in office and we will all be dropped into the shit. If Trump steps down because there are factual votes, then our people have made their choice for Biden. If Biden/Harris contend the votes for Trump/Pence, then I’ll be happy the election processes were done mostly correctly.

I’m glad to learn that Harris is a Senator from California, it gives me more research ability & info about her.

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#1- About Bible Readers Reading Enjoyment Being Enhanced

I’ve read the Bible, most of my reading has been done with the New World Translation, of 1984 with footnotes and cross references. BUT I also have looked into the King James Version, NIV (New International Version), and others over time. For me the reading of the Bible has developed as I’ve grown over time, but just today I received my first copy of a Bible that was ordered chronologically.

Because of buying it on eBay I originally posted a review just based on what I found from looking through that book. BUT my original complaint wasn’t posted… I’m so glad because after reading through the facts I later learned some of the problems of that book were added into my commenting as praises which were inaccuracies. Now the correct comments are shared because of taking a little more time to assess the accuracy of that version of the Bible.

What Chronological Bible?

The 2013 Bible, is actually a great book… It’s the One Year Chronological Bible and it has many reading values.

It’s not too small OR too large.

General Book Style To Read

It is a really nice read, the paragraph & spacing style of the printed pages allow readers to associate the material with any other books that aren’t Bibles OR college material of the 2 column type. The material format and print size, between 10 & 12 font, mean that it’s easier to read than the smaller print Bibles.

The author’s have taken the time to work on this book as is seen with how the material is compiled and shared.

Ordered Timewise Chronologically by Events

It’s great that the Bible was reordered from the canonical style, ordered from Genesis to Revelation classically by books that have chapters and verses.  There is a reference to the canonical ways of the Bible at the end of this version. It includes references to this chronological style with page numbers listed near the canonical/ classical references that are shared with this Bible.

In addition with the chronological information it adds the timeframes for readers of when the events happen through the reading. As you can see in the slightly tilted image below:

Reading this Bible

This chronological Bible has the sections separated into 365 days of reading starting with January 1st, but NO ONE HAS to read the Bible that slowly OR at those times OR even in that order. But this writing by Tyndale has shared for us a way to read through most of the Bible with a lot more insight into the historical nature of the scriptures. It’s styled based on Biblical events as they happened, as I put onto the cover with my noting, but not with how OR when they written.

 

This should make for a great time-a-logical writing, but there is more readers can do for reading accuracy.

Time-A-Logical Reading

I appreciate that they compiled the material with aspects like the timeline of events with Judah and Israel that includes the writer’s lives over those times. The writing time references they used, the additional historical notes and details that are added as references, plus footnotes that allow readers to find more info about the scriptures as they read. The yearly timeline shared doesn’t need to be used at all for great reading through this book. BUT as you can see I need a readers way to get to sections of those timelines, so the addition of flags and tags was made for me on my addition.

Can be Used with Classical/ Canonical Bible’s Also

While it’s not ordered canonically it does have the scripture chapters, versus listed with the reading, so an individual can pull out the classical canonical format and compare OR even read those scriptures if they find the chronological style not as useful with times and works being done.

For instance if I was at a meeting and someone told me to open up Jeremiah 12:3 it would be easier to do that with a canonical Bible. I could still do that with this Bible by going to the Canonical Scripture Index at the end of the Bible to find what pages had that scripture. BUT it would be a lot faster in some situations just using the classic styling Bible’s for some uses, but I really really like this style for reading and understanding the scriptural story better.

Faults of This Bible

Faults with Reading this book are that the events are chronologically ordered by the events that happen not the time of the writing about the events. They tried to order the writer’s words by how they relate to when they were written, but there are reasons that I don’t agree with those orders. For book, story, and Bible readers there are ways to get more value out of the material as well as more understanding, at least from non-fictional materials.

That is a factor that readers’ can use to find MORE value from with the reading!

Enhanced Bible Reading Enjoyment for US ALL!!!

The Bible is a book covering a couple of thousands of years of history. For all of us with the multiple writers it means that the chronological telling can have many various forms that we can find and enjoy. I’m looking at buying versions that include archeological facts and details, different aspects of story sharing variables also. BUT it’s important for all scholarly readers to take the time to do more than just read a book, so that they can learn more than just how one telling of a story shares the words of the story.

Writers & Events Impact the Tales

For all books, like the Bible writers and events impact the details of what is told and how those details are shared.

For example the series of books, the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John about Jesus’ on earth were all recorded at different times and for different readers. There are different timelines of story that impact the connections with readers. So for my reading I’ll use a chronological telling at this time, with using understanding of the writings that may differ from others.

This, One Year, Bible has

  • MARK’s writing from about 55 to 65AD,
  • LUKE’s from 60AD,
  • MATTHEW’s from 60 to 65AD,
  • JOHN’s from 85 to 90AD…

The New World Translation timeline is different

  • MATTHEW’s writing completed in 41AD,
  • LUKE’s writing completed between 56 and 58AD,
  • MARK’s 60 to 65AD, and finally
  • JOHN’s ending at about 98AD.

This means reading understanding can differ based on opinions of when & why things were written.

I’m not going to historically tell you details of this info, but it’s useful to consider the various writing times as well as the different writer’s reasons for writing to the readers they were sharing with because of how this varies what they share, how they share it, it can also influence considerations of what was written when and how. In addition who the writer’s were & are influences the stories that they tell and how they tell them. Let me simplify this a bit with a modern example.

A- Simplified fictional modern example

If I were to witness a car accident, and Bill was we both are seeing things from our own views. If Melinda was in the accident and George also saw it from another perspective there are 4 views of the exact same event. All of us could have witnessed various aspects of the accident and that can mean that we tell the story of the accident with different details and views of what was seen.

  • If Melinda’s car had just come out of the shop being repaired.
  • If George saw a lug nut bouncing down the road., if
  • I had seen the tire hit hit the curb, while on the car, and
  • if Bill had thought he saw the driver driving weird

each of the perspectives are telling parts of the story. There’s more to the story based on what was happening when we were telling things and why we were telling things also.

So no story has a single way of being shared. For this means that the gospels also have alternate details and perspectives from both the writers and with the readers that can influence how the stories were shared and how the readers get those.

Additional Gospels in Perspectives

Let’s consider this from the version of story times I think is more accurate.

  • MATTHEW’s writing completed in 41AD,
  • LUKE’s writing completed between 56 and 58AD,
  • MARK’s 60 to 65AD, and finally
  • JOHN’s ending at about 98AD.

Matthew

MATTHEW as a Jew and a tax collector, was a person that kept accounts of things, which likely also means he took notes of stuff over time, and his accounts were some of the first in writing mainly because he was sharing with Jews the stories he had gathered with time. The Jews who came into contact with disciples of Jesus, those who were impacted by events with his death, those who witnessed his resurrection and many more likely had questions. Because he was writing within 10 years of Jesus’ death it’s assumed that a lot of his info could have been a compilation of his notes from events, but also this means those details could have been referenced by the other gospel writers.

Luke and Mark wrote their scriptural accounts about 15 to 20 years after Matthew.

Luke

It’s supposed that LUKE was writing material in a detailed manner that is often attributed to how as a physician he would be noting details of types related to physical aspects and results. Luke’s notice of physical aspects of people, the healing, and the details of those events can explain why he didn’t comment as much on the reactions of the crowds in many events. The aspects of this being shared by him 15 years after Matthew’s account also mean that the additional points and details are not only backing up Matthew’s account they are also reinforcing aspects of the story as well as adding details to what was shared.

Mark’s account came about 5 years later.

Mark

The account of MARK began to be shared in Rome. “According to ancient tradition, Mark’s gospel was first made public in Rome.” (Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 1114, 1971). Mark likely spoke primarily with early Christians, partially because of his age with events from Jesus’ life, and because of how he related with the Christian church/ congregational/ organizational developments. Mark could have been “the young young man who escaped, partially naked, when Jesus was captured.” (Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 1113; 1971). I assume from this that it’s likely he was a teenager, who got out of home, at night, went to the garden to spy on the events he caught ear of previously. Likely an uninvited guest of the events.

“Ancient tradition indicates that Peter provided the basic information for Mark’s Gospel..Although Mark appears to have written primarily for the Romans, this record does contain [info] from the Hebrew scriptures.” (Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 1113; 1114, 1971). This is also likely to tell us that Mark’s words were written to people who grew up hearing of Jesus, but those who hadn’t witnessed much in accord with the events of Jesus being alive.

That shouldn’t be a surprise if this Mark’s “Hebrew name was John”. (Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 1111, 1971). This also means that Mark was a Jew by birth. The people were distinct religiously in many ways…but the story was the same in many respects. Differences were from how people lived and what they believed as readers would have had an impact on how things were written in many ways.

John

The writings of John are totally distinct because what he wrote was after living times with the early Christians being killed and hurt from beliefs about the Christ and times they were living in. In addition John had witnessed the events of visions and more that caused him to write Revelation which means there is a lot of detail in his account of Jesus’ life that could have meant very little when being witnessed that may have had a lot of impact later after seeing, hearing, and witnessing things that had happened from beyond those events.

For instance John had likely spent a little time reading the events of Saul (Paul) who saw Jesus/Michael. In addition the details of John often had bits and parts that were missed by those living around Jesus and other gospel writers. These writings while from different people, written in different ways, aren’t written to be any more than what we read, but they are so much more.

B- Modern Example Detailed Some More

What if with our modern example more could be found from getting perspectives of the viewers of those events?

What if that car accident had more to show us?

“All of us could have witnessed various aspects of the accident and that can mean that we tell the story of the accident with different details and views of what was seen.” This also means we could tell of different aspects that pertain to the exact same event.

  • If Melinda’s car had just come out of the shop being repaired.

What if the shop had a new person, a kid, who had forgotten to bolt the tires onto the rims correctly? What if the shop owner hadn’t been in the shop, so the kid made the mistake of saying the car was ready to go without having made sure all the work details were finished accurately? So Melinda was driving down the road with a car that wasn’t working right?

  • If George saw a lug nut bouncing down the road.

George could have been seeing part of the incident before anything else that was major was witnessed by any other viewers. BUT Melinda was likely to have been trying to handle things as they were happening.

  • I had seen the tire hit hit the curb, while on the car.

Melinda had been working to get the car stopped safely, before the tire wobbled off the car. I didn’t know that, I could have assumed that she was drunk. The car is the proof of what has happened with this incident.

  • if Bill had thought he saw the driver driving weird.

Bill could have also thought that Melinda was driving drunkenly, but he could have seen more because he has more knowledge of cars and driving than I do.

CONCLUSION

“Each of the perspectives are telling parts of the story,” but there’s so much more that we have to be readers/ viewers using faith as well as knowledge to look beyond the surface of what is shared to find more in the events as they are shared.

This post is #1, I’m not sure if I’m going to add any more OR not, but I do have plans to get other Bible’s with other chronological ordering in addition to that I hope these Bible’s let me gain more insight into the events of the Bible that I will share…so for now enjoy your reading.

Business Continuation Steps… PLUS

Businesses can fail because of not taking the time to do more than focus on setting the business up and get products prepared with the business. The business continuation steps are focusing on continuation with the business while the steps to make the business succeed are being worked on. Here is Rhapsodie’s list of business steps, I do not have all the information, but I’m sure that it’s some more than many businesses add into processes:

  • Prepare the business properly,
    • Legal work;
    • Financial work;
    • Product development work generally called R&D (Research & Development);
    • Marketing work;
    • Communications work;
    • More
  • Act correctly over time with development & actions in business,
    • People work;
    • Legal work;
    • Financial work;
    • Product development work;
    • Marketing work;
    • Sales work;
    • Communications work;
    • More
  • Keep the business with actions & developments overtime with,
    • People work;
    • Legal work;
    • Financial work;
    • Product development work;
    • Marketing work;
    • Sales work
    • Communications work;
    • More
  • Setting in processes & plans for the future along with continuing the business at present-
    • Takeover; Continuation; Retirement; other business future options
    • People work;
    • Legal work;
    • Financial work;
    • Product development work;
    • Marketing work;
    • Sales work
    • Communications work;
    • More

All of this work with business takes time, energy, effort, constant update, constant development, and constant consideration over the development of the business into a business AND through the business as a business. If the factors are learned in business that’s okay, but if processes and procedures aren’t worked on with the business then FAILURE is the most likely option being prepared with the business.

The business can only continue with actions that assist it to resist failure. Reasons with this were found in my examination of a product commented on at Home Advisor.

Business Failure Can Be Worked on to be Avoided

As my previous post shared, there are products that are of use in siding a home, reasons for failures and successes go beyond the product itself. This came from reading Sandi’s comment about Liquid Siding, notice that she mentions that she could not locate the manufacturer 10 years after the application. The problems with application could have been reduced if the business had taken steps to cut the problems AS WELL AS having worked to improve it’s processes with the product:

Comment Sandi, January 29 [Rhapsodie’s words are added in the square brackets]

Do not use on wood siding!! [Rhapsodie does not agree with this, but because of the results, it can be that the area Sandi lived in also impacted these results. Plus the way her structure was built and when the material was applied.]

We had liquid siding put on about 10 years ago and have had a problem with wood rot on the T111 [called T one eleven] for the past 5 years [likely the T111 was damp in application of the liquid siding this wasn’t the fault of the wood OR the material, it was a fault in the application.]

We will have to completely reside a 4,000 sq ft house. Cannot find the manufacture.

How this comment influences Rhapsodie’s Words about Business

Rhapsodie’s Words based on reading that information are based on application considerations that would be part of the various business steps mentioned above including:

  • People work;
  • Legal work;
  • Financial work;
  • Product development work;
  • Marketing work;
  • Sales work;
  • Communications work;

For instance with the product development work while the business could have merchandised great & their product could have been great, but that doesn’t mean their product appliers OR processes were good. If plans were made to integrate product development with the research time for testing and trials, part of this problem situation could have been reduced for Sandi before she even bought the product.

This product development work could have involved:

  • Product uses with tests in applications;
  • Product uses over times with applications; and
  • Product developments with the tests of uses in the products over time.

This work adds cost to the business before anything is shared with the public, but also while things are being shared with the public. Processes and procedures with legal and financial planning and actions with the business can impact development BUT in addition to that can influence procedures and actions beyond that.

The work with processes and procedures can impact how the finances are used AND how the steps in processes and procedures impact legal costs & values with the business. BUT more than that the

  • People work;
  • Product development work;
  • Marketing work;
  • Sales work; and
  • Communications work.

Can all be integrated into product & process development both before client uses and with client uses.

How many individuals like Sandi could have appreciated working with the business in product development if they were give ‘cost reduction’ options for product uses with tests and trials in use of their home. And with the communications processes prepared for the comments & ‘problems’ & ‘value’ uses with the products in application; uses; the results.

For example if Sandi’s home of T111 was covered by this material when the T111 was ‘damp’ because the wood was bought brand new, then it could mean anyone doing the application on ‘new wood’ could have problems also. In addition to that because DAMP WOOD is often found with new products, the aging processes and procedures with wood could impact the application time frames with this new Liquid Siding application.

Liquid siding from my reading is a form of material like vinyl siding, but being that it’s painted, it seals any product problems, like moisture in wood, beneath the plastic. And what happens when your kids OR you have sweaty wet wear put in plastic bags that are left that way over time. The stinky clothes can rot in the bags if they aren’t cleaned & dried before being put into plastic OR storage again.

Some Business Application Material Considerations

For the business the T111 material could have been new, damp, and needed to be dried before the Liquid Siding was applied.

  • But did it practice communication and processes with the customers it had with problems like that?
  • Did it prepare application tests and processes that could have reduced those problems?
  • Shouldn’t it have prepared for appliers that used the product incorrectly with it’s legal and communication procedures before it suffered the problems from ‘idiots’ in business that do not follow the manufacturer application processes?
  • Shouldn’t it have taken the time to make sure the products were sold with a little more cost for the customers, so that the prices would assist them to continue to care for the users after they had ‘problems’ resulting from bad uses and applications?
  • Were the applicators hired by the business?
    • How did the business prepare & train people doing applications with it’s products?
    • What contracts did the business prepare for applicators working with it’s business?
    • What times & process actions were part of the business application procedures that the contractors were to work with for the business?
  • If applicator’s weren’t hired were the business, were there information guides prepared so other contractors would have application guidance by the business to use?
    • Were there product warranty contracts & actions prepared to handle legal situations resulting from unapproved applicators using the business products inaccurately?

More will always come

A business is always growing. No business will have no additional costs after it’s up and running, which means there will always be additional costs beyond normal business costs when a business is up and running. Taking the time with plans and procedures to make sure actions and processes are prepared for business development with each and every customer & each and every product takes time, effort, energy, consideration, care, and business development with actions over time.

If a business doesn’t take care in it’s planning, processes and product development, process and product uses, plus process and product care there’s need to do more also. This could mean with work in time they can improve things as long as they are prepared to change and develop with time and with actions over time.  BUT if they begin business without taking the time to

  • TEST PRODUCTS in;
    • Test marketing;
    • Test uses;
    • Development tests;
    • Care efforts;
    • Communications with
      • customers we have & customers we could get;
      • business people in house & external;
      • development people in house & external; and
      • others also.
  • TEST METHODS including
    • Development processes & products;
    • Marketing options & actions;
    • Legal preparations, communications, and works;
    • Financial preparations, communications, allowances for mistakes & possible needs, and other works;
    • Customer work including our sharing BUT also including taking time to care to listen, learn, and grow with their comments the negative & the positive. Because no one learns to grow from being told you’re great unless we are also trying to find out what we need to improve on. It’s easier to learn to grow by being told this is not right, I hope  you will try OR do AND if you changed this and other comments that can be ‘negative’, but are actually valuable for the business if it takes time to hear the customers;
    • Communication work is “2/3rds hearing and 1/3rd speaking” Dr. Back, Alfred State College. But communication work is also taking the time to learn more with what is being heard, so it involves interactions and inviting comments so that we can hear more;
    • Product sharing work is always growing and developing. When products are similar to others they are often styled similarly because those options are what work well for the customers. If new products are being shared tests and trials mean customers impact future developments because they should influence what is shared and how it’s shared and over time this progresses and develops;
      • Uses with products- it may be products are developed for certain uses and certain purposes, but customers and their tests and trials can influence what users consider AND try with the products made available and how those are used. If the business is listening to it’s clients they could learn about this and thus it can offer other sharing options not previously considered. While this will mean further research & development it can advance sharing options also;
    • Uses with business should always be prepared for advancing and changing, that’s why research and development are so important as are the communications and interactions with customers.
  • ADDING
    • TIME TO ALLOW QUALITY TO BE LEARNED IN APPLICATIONS &
      • with TYPES of MATERIALS &
      • with TYPES OF MATERIAL &
    • TO MAKE SURE THIS IS CONTINUED OVER TIME,
  • can assist a business in avoiding failure. This is not a guarantee, but it’s a tool that can be of assistance.

For Any Business

For anyone who doesn’t consider the future with their actions of the present can be preparing for some sorts of failure. If mom & dad train their kids to be as they are how with their kids develop to be adults which are more than kids as they are?

Home Work Rhapsodie’s Words Shares:

Exterior Work my Comments at Home Advisor

Business Continuation Steps… PLUS

Exterior Work my Comments at Home Advisor

Because of comments I made at Home Advisor sharing my information I’m adding my writing about MULTIPLE COMMENTS on A HOME ADVISOR PAGE THAT were made by me. This is in case anyone comes to this site because I made those comments. Often I do not share information about home work, but I’ve done research, have done painting, and have tried to make sure I learn how to do work before taking the time to do it.

After learning how to do work I try to make sure the actions I tried live well over time. So the application of plastic siding instead of paint likely have multiple variables that impact the coverage beyond the materials used. Because of some knowledge gained with time & work in exterior paint jobs as well as ideas from the comments on that Liquid Siding- Worth a Look? Home Advisor page, I’m adding that information here for reference.

Planning to do outside work is generally a normal consideration for homeowners around this time of year, being spring. The options for outside work depend, but property care is a constant endeavor, so there are often tasks that are shifted and varied depending on materials considered and costs factored with these considerations. Many individuals that don’t consider the future, are so short term in what is considered that they fail to calculate future care costs and values when considering options for the present. Money is generally the main cost consideration, but time, energy, effort, care needs, work efforts, problem costs from lack of care impact all of these decisions.

When calculation the costs and values in products and materials for work and for projects there are many options and many considerations. For instance with the Liquid Siding, what is the material is as important as how is the material applied and who does the application. That’s why I shared my comments on Home Advisor, because the liquid vinyl ‘paint’ material seems wonderful versus normal paint being that if applied correctly the care over time is tremendously reduced.

Comments– on the Home Advisor page about Liquid Siding

Marie Harsh, July 3:

I had liquid siding put on my house 10 yrs ago. The cost was very fair. To this day it still looks as good as it did from day 1, I haven’t had to do any upkeep and the bugs don’t like it.

Rhapsodie’s Words in response to Marie’s Comments with Additional Notes

But what product did Marie use? &

What application process was used &

Who were the appliers?

At times many people do not read the instructions, at times people that read the instruction do not follow the instructions correctly either so they end up with product problems.

For materials like paints the applications vary with the form of the product, spray paint versus applicator paints have various pros & cons with different application procedures & needs. Some application considerations include temperatures & humidity levels with applications.

Often products mention temperatures to be above OR between AND

  • this may not mean atmospheric temperatures, but SURFACE TEMPERATURES, humidity levels to be under.
    • Painters working in the correct atmosphere may still need to work on different surface locations with those correct conditions because of various surfaces and the needs with those.
      • Like applying paint on the south in the middle of the day IS BAD,
        • when the sun was out all day in the evening after the sun sets while the times are dry can be better.
        • OR in the morning if the night was dry and the humidity level was correct.]

Professional painters organize application times and patterns based on various application needs and processes with the materials, the surfaces, and the time needs with that work. Anyone trying to cut the application times, with how they do the work and when they do it are likely to cause future problems AND reduce the lifespan of the work values because of their actions.

For the Liquid Vinyl Siding, because the material is ‘newer’ the application methods aren’t as widely broadcast OR experimented with as are methods and actions with painting. Because of that businesses selling or sharing those products should have taken the time to develop good use processes. Sandi suffered because this wasn’t done when she used the product, she blamed the wood surface, but I’m sure there were multiple factors impacting that application AND the results being suffered by her and her family.

Rhapsodie’s Words About Products & Procedures from this comment are added into an additional page, but were shared at Home Advisor also.

Home Work Rhapsodie’s Words Shares:

Exterior Work my Comments at Home Advisor

Business Continuation Steps… PLUS

#17- Rhapsodie’s Visual PAIN Diary- April 2017

More here continuing from #16- Visual PAIN Diary- Winter into Spring 2017- Worse & Better At the present time, my LEFT Forearm, LEFT Calf, RIGHT Calf, RIGHT Forearm, LEFT Rotator Cuff, RIGHT Shoulder, 2nd to smallest toe on my Left foot, are my only real PAIN ISSUES that shift and vary with bone strain in movements. 

Presently

I generally get upmost days without any pain, but my movements during the day can and sometimes do cause PAIN.  A wrong step or a wrong lift can give me lightning pain followed by swelling and an ache that diminishes without more stress if I do not repeat that motion within the next week.

Sleeping is made way more difficult, because my left calf feels like it splits when I rest on my right side for 15 minutes or any more.  The exercises for my lower left ankle/calf assigned with physical therapy have increased and advanced the fever of my right calf. It only aches like a bruise presently.

Walking with my left calf wrapped causes pain like shoving micro spears into my bones near the last place a spike of pain happened if I’m on uneven ground and barefoot.  Walking with shoes and bracing causes me to ache whenever I take a step wrong at the store, like from pushing a shopping cart.  My right calf ONLY hurts when rubbed by hand to remove the swelling that centers over the fracture, that is as yet untreated, and when the fever in the calf gets bad my body temperature rises also.

ANTIBIOTICS CONTINUE TO REMAIN THE ONLY PAIN TREATMENT that removes pain.  But doctors’ have continued to ignore this sign of infections in the body. Prescribed treatments only fiddlefarden by brain to disguise from it the reality of pain.

  • Steroid– I was allergic so only 2 doses out of 7 were taken, a week of no pain, but I really injured areas that weren’t felt as being in pain.  Over 3 months of working to recover to the point I was previous to taking a single dose.
  • Acetaminophen/Cod 3o mg & Turmeric Cur-cumin– 24 hours of sleep with 36 hours of fuzzed brain, fluffing away the pain in disguising the problems from nerve central.
  • Aspirin/Ibuprofen– 5 to 12 hours of sleep
  • NSAID Cream– Anti-Inflammatory, I’ve only used one dose so far.

The fever in my right calf has been regrowing, today April 15th my temperature was over a degree above normal. The area of swelling on my right calf is not associated with ‘bone injury,’ but surgery was mentioned to me this last week.  My left arm though is the problem we’ve discussed through this set of blog posts, with the Visual PAIN Diary- From September 2013 into April 2017,

this is the last post for that section of this PAIN Care blog. Because I believe the plate for my LEFT arm has been moving around.  And thus the movement of the plate means that the areas of pressure from grip have shifted when pressing in areas also.

My sleep is again being problematic.  Because of so much lack of care, lack of physically moving properly regularly I’m almost incapable of walking presently.  The present medical system is set up to make sure anywhere there is a problem on your body you have to go in for a separate visit.

The Left shoulder injury could probably have been avoided if there had been care for my lower arm, but there hasn’t been, and I’m still having problems with my left lower arm & the recovery exercises for the shoulder exacerbate the problems with swelling of my Left Forearm.

But beyond them is how the patient will continue to suffer into the future and the cost settlements for injuries that are as yet uncared for as well as uncalculated into the lack of care … The lack of care results have led to a weak left arm, added to taking my ability to do the enjoyable tasks I still love as shared in the beginning of the document.

NEEDING LEFT ARM BRACING FOR ALL NORMAL TASKS,

many of which are avoided because of the work stress spiking pains:

  • Holding a bowl of soup, a small notebook, anything at all really with my lower left arm results in spiking and shifting pain with a single move.
    •  It’s really hard to eat a bowl of cereal.
  • Taking out trash, on the kitchen 15 gallon can has not been done, by me in over 2 years, my previous work at McDonalds involved lifting larger trash bags regularly.
  • Sorting through my storage of season clothes exchange took over 2 weeks, pain hindered me as did my arm not being powerful enough to brace a suit on a hanger single handedly with my left hand.
    • I have not washed a sink full of dishes since the week of the Steroid NO PAIN;
  • SWOLLEN NUMB FINGERS, specifically the 2 middle ones of my left hand, started feeling pinched about the summer of 2015 after the Steroid week & this reoccured in September & October of 2016.
  • SWOLLEN HAND, if my Left Arm is not angled up to sleep, I awake with it totally numb.
More ARM Work PROBLEMS,
  • Watering my plants is uncomfortable with my 1 quart watering container. 2 hands work best.
  • Adding water to the humidifier is done with the smallest cooking pot in the house, the 2 to 3.5 cup one. That’s between 16 and 28 ounces, a gallon of milk has to be lifted with 2 hands.
  • Lifting my drink mug with my left hand aches.
  • I do not comb my hair or brush my teeth with my left hand anymore either.
  • Washing Dishes, 1 piece at a time,
  • After doing anything normally easy for over 1 hour,
    • except for using the typing keyboard, it’s okay with resting my arm on the brace pad on my tucked down bear.
  • I haven’t sewn, sketched, crafted, read a book that weighs more than a Harlequin in over 6 months because my left arm can’t support the weight or the use angle stresses presently.

Just earlier this week a metal L door handle touched the upper edge of the YELLOW ORANGE bruise pain on the picture, the pressure felt like having a hand slap onto a bloody purple bruise beneath the skin. That area has never caused me any pain in the past; I would rate that at somewhere near ONE but less than that.  It’s the persistent re-ache that is most annoying.

Because months have passed since my last entry I’m adding details from the present situation and the pain shifting.  A situation which the doctors have listed as chronic pain, they’re stupid about that, but then they only read what others share with them before making a diagnosis. The February 2018 post demonstrates how the so called ‘chronic pain’ isn’t, it’s in fact circumstantial driven by life AND lack of proper treatment.

Associated Posts

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#01. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments CAN CAUSE MORE BODY DAMAGE

#02- PAIN Assessments Corresponding with UTI’s

#03. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with A HIGH PAIN Tolerance

#04- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with JUST Rate Pain from 0 to 10

#05- Inaccurate Doctoral PAIN Assessments based on Guesses

#06- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments because of no Patient Pain Understanding

#07- Inaccurate PAIN Ratings with NO Applicable Associations

#08- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments MADE a BIT Better

#09- Detailing Diaries Could Limit Inaccurate PAIN Assessments

#10- A PAIN & Injury Diary MAY Change Inaccurate Doctoral ASSESSMENTS

Rhapsodie’s Visual PAIN Diary- From September 2013 into April 2017

 Rhapsodie’s ideas to improve Medical ASSESSMENTS by doctors

PAIN Variables

 

#16- Visual PAIN Diary- Winter into Spring 2017- Worse & Better

The pain splitting AND swelling that resulted from the shoulder bracing demonstrated to me that also the injuries of my left calf were splintering as I feel towards my knee and towards my ankle.  With use my left arm is splintering towards my wrist.  This is not normal but maybe people with dense bones are more likely to have this happen because of the greater bone resistance to splitting breaks which separate bone parts completely.

Winter & Spring 2017 Swelling & Splitting Pain Tied Together

At present my Lower LEFT Arm suffers swelling and more, pictures from February to April of 2017 are demonstrative visuals. As you can see with the pictures, the swelling green section is over the lower forearm bone, it has not reached the wrist bones, but it is very close.

Osteoclasts were not allowed to work the separated bone into the freshened injury after the Father’s Day Fall of 2014.  After pushing a part of the bone down behind the plate as it was in my arm then did not realign on the injury properly, thus it did not heal onto the base bone properly.

This is only part of Rhapsodie’s issues, but having bones improperly cared for can weaken the overall body of any person.

  • How do multiple repeated spreading fractures weaken a person?
  • How does the lack of correct bone care hurt and add problems beyond pain?

There are definite answers to these questions, but in consideration of my left arm, more and more physical weakness hinders my physical activity and the muscle mass decrease has allowed my injured bone areas to sprawl with greater touchable ease and the lack of use has caused more body problems as well as fear that Osteoarthritis & Rheumatoid Arthritis will be suffered more than it ever should have because of NO DOCTORAL CARE & self patient education.

A person should work to retain body balances, if they do not work towards this through their life they could suffer more and more as we see repeatedly.  Originally the PAIN problems I had were just rated by me as accidents in which I would heal from with time.  But the years of growing issues, evidenced on these pages demonstrates how initial pain problems diagnosed incorrectly can expand and become worse problems for both patients and their serving medical people.  Especially when medical people don’t take the time to investigate more than ‘tell us how you would rate the pain?’  Followed by let’s prescribe a ‘drug.’

To me that’s not work to investigate or learn anything, if you reported to the local police that you saw a car off the road in an odd area with skid tracks through the snow an investigative vehicle would be sent to the location. The problem would be taken care of before the police left the area abandoned with no care for the people.

If the work to pursue diagnostics was done with a little more accurate understanding of the real pain being felt with the medical requests then there could be better care with hopefully less cost as well as time wasted for both the patient searching for care and the doctors who are working to provide care.

  • Why is it if a patient talks about pain, there is no care given?

NO wonder there are so many people suffering ‘prescription drug problems.’  For me, pain is a sign of problems, taking drugs to minimize pain weaken my body and add to problems I could get.

Presently

I generally get upmost days without any pain, but my movements during the day can and sometimes do cause Pain.  A wrong step or a wrong lift can give me lightning pain followed by swelling and an ache that diminishes without more stress.  Sleeping is made way more difficult, because my left calf feels like it splits when I rest on my right side for 15 minutes or any more

Associated Posts

Please forgive me, but you’ll likely want to right click and open in a new tab, because the click link MAY NOT WORK.

#01. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments CAN CAUSE MORE BODY DAMAGE

#02- PAIN Assessments Corresponding with UTI’s

#03. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with A HIGH PAIN Tolerance

#04- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with JUST Rate Pain from 0 to 10

#05- Inaccurate Doctoral PAIN Assessments based on Guesses

#06- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments because of no Patient Pain Understanding

#07- Inaccurate PAIN Ratings with NO Applicable Associations

#08- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments MADE a BIT Better

#09- Detailing Diaries Could Limit Inaccurate PAIN Assessments

#10- A PAIN & Injury Diary MAY Change Inaccurate Doctoral ASSESSMENTS

Rhapsodie’s Visual PAIN Diary- From September 2013 into April 2017

 Rhapsodie’s ideas to improve Medical ASSESSMENTS by doctors

PAIN Variables

 

#15- Visual PAIN Diary- July through December 2016- NO PROFESSIONAL CARE More Problems

Rhapsodie’s PAIN Diary continues from beyond the last post- #14- Visual PAIN Diary- August 2014 to Summer 2016 INACCURATE Records SUFFEREDThis wasn’t nice, but it was easier than suffering more shitty assessments, but the original shoulder brace shifted something else in my lower left arm. Some may find that their PAIN Diary progression may just have the pain minimizing and totally dropping away as injuries heal progressively.  This is what is normally anticipated with healing, and I’ve had multiple switch change pain placements that demonstrate this has been happening with me also.

BUT my lower left arm has NEVER been cared for appropriately by doctors.

July to August 2016

Problems from the lack of care, INACCURATE PAIN ASSESSMENT CORRESPONDENCE, incomplete and falsified records have extended to other body parts as well as my dignity, work ability, my family care with me and other doctor’s care of me. My left rotator cuff was knocked out of place in July 2016.  The drop in my shoulder was suffered with for months until August 28th when it was shifted back into position at home.

Then after my demand to go to emergency my need for proper shoulder care had me making my pain estimates what I assumed other people would say in the same situation.

September through December 2016

And my request at emergency got me a shoulder & lower arm brace that was used for 3 days at the start of September 2016, until I determined a more comfortable method because my lower Left arm suffered from wearing the cuff.

The MRI did display 3 injuries on that shoulder, but my high pain tolerance had me living for over 1.5 months with my shoulder dropped 1 to 2 inches below its natural location in the shoulder socket.  The accidental blanket re-shifting of my shoulder back into normal placement that happened on August 28th, 2016 was followed by:

  • August 28th visit to the Emergency Room.
  • 1 visit on September 3rd to a specialist- that prescribed a visit to get an MRI & a visit to a Rotator Cuff surgeon/specialist.
  • October 14, 2016 MRI.
  • Visit to another specialist was never handled by the office of the September 3rd visit; I set up my own, with another specialist visit on March 8th, 2017.
  • Followed by a, March 16th, visit to another surgeon/specialist for examination of my Rotator Cuff MRI.
  • This has been followed by his prescription to go for physical therapy at 8 visits, one of which cost $300. AND
  • Another visit scheduled with that specialist to review how progressive the physical therapy has been later this month.

This means I would have done better totally avoiding the doctors and doing an online search for rotator cuff care & rotator cuff exercises.

It definitely would have been cheaper AND much more progressively beneficial.  This has also been proven with the shoulder bracing. This shoulder brace, provided to me at the emergency room assisted in holding the shoulder in place, but it didn’t feel healthy.

There are multiple problems I associate with the lack of use of muscles of the arm, but the shoulder still needed to be braced because it had spent over 6 weeks out of position.  Above my wrist but below my scar some lighting bites of pain happen more and more progressively with the use of the hospital brace.

My 1st visit to a specialist confirmed that there was real injury to my shoulder.  And his prescription for another brace that was more comfortable was given to me.

My husband took me to a local pharmacy that had multiple brace types in stock.  With examining the package as well as other braces on the internet the cost of the internet brace was significantly less.  My husband purchased one of the online braces for me, BUT use of it also caused problems with my lower arm. The pressure of the brace along my arm felt like my bone was soft not stiff in the arm brace.

Another item had been used by me while waiting for the brace that I found good.

My Rotator Cuff Stuffy as shown in the picture here, held by my shoulder, allowed the rest of my body more comfort and freedom, but still braced my shoulder as you can see in comparing the pictures.

Many types of braces are available, the medical industry may not like this, but My Rotator Cuff Stuffy is not tactically bad other than the fact it was created as a stuffed animal and thus I restuffed it about a month ago for better comfort.  Its shape & size allows my underarm to be braced up and locked in place while the rear spread feet keep and raised head allow my body to hold it in place.   I have worn it under a coat, over flannel shirts, bathrobes, and against bare skin and t-shirts.

While my lower left arm has been protected there is more rawness, and I’ve felt the placement of the plate vary.  Now instead of along the scar where there was bone numbness when I touch the outside of my arm, it’s now below my arm and more towards my hand than my elbow.

The pain splitting AND swelling that resulted from the shoulder bracing demonstrated to me that also the injuries of my left calf were splintering as I feel towards my knee and towards my ankle.  With use my left arm is splintering towards my wrist.  This is not normal but maybe people with dense bones are more likely to have this happen because of the greater bone resistance to splitting breaks which separate bone parts completely…

Associated Posts

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#01. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments CAN CAUSE MORE BODY DAMAGE

#02- PAIN Assessments Corresponding with UTI’s

#03. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with A HIGH PAIN Tolerance

#04- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with JUST Rate Pain from 0 to 10

#05- Inaccurate Doctoral PAIN Assessments based on Guesses

#06- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments because of no Patient Pain Understanding

#07- Inaccurate PAIN Ratings with NO Applicable Associations

#08- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments MADE a BIT Better

#09- Detailing Diaries Could Limit Inaccurate PAIN Assessments

#10- A PAIN & Injury Diary MAY Change Inaccurate Doctoral ASSESSMENTS

Rhapsodie’s Visual PAIN Diary- From September 2013 into April 2017

 Rhapsodie’s ideas to improve Medical ASSESSMENTS by doctors

PAIN Variables

 

#14- Visual PAIN Diary- August 2014 to Summer 2016 INACCURATE Records SUFFERED

So ended the previous post- #13- Visual PAIN Diary- July 2014- Painful Pokey Boney Walk The amount on a pain scale was about a 6 with my arm down, but with the arm up against my chest it was only depleted with shoving the Pokey Boney back into place behind the plate.  It didn’t go back onto the bone, but at least it wasn’t sticking out any more.

August & Fall 2014- Frictional Discomfort

There were months while I rubbed at a very tiny protuberance that  shifted and rubbed behind the plate that hid the bone from my fingers.  Sometimes a boney section pecked out from between my solid bone area and the plate that remained as a fracture support.  My arm continued to suffer shifting and rubbing feelings of pain, until I finally pressed it down to a more comfortable location multiple months later.

But the bruising on my arm was continually being felt.  In fact to this day I can touch the exact locations I rubbed and shifted against for months, seeking comfort with my Left Forearm, as are pictured here:

But multiple inaccurate reports used by doctors & medical technologists have caused them to fake in the estimates while not doing proper examining.

The ONLY accepted official report about my 2005 surgery was the false one stuffed in my files.  The X-rays of that arm show glass or gravel, like the plate was to be seen as, but NO CARE HAS BEEN GIVEN, because it has been the patient’s word against the doctor’s inaccurate testimony.

How can we as patient’s continue to accept these inaccuracies AND live by them when we have the exact opposite actually happening to us.  Well we human’s do like to be dumb and ignorant when it is too much work to fight for truth and right.  Isn’t that why Hitler was so successful with the persecution camps?

The Infrequent & continual rubbing of my lower arm resulted in getting the bruised deepening area feeling on the bone,  but there was ALWAYS another item keeping my fingers separated from the bone.

  • Wouldn’t a removed plate on my left arm have allowed me to feel the touch of my fingers against the bone?
    • For many years there have areas of my lower left arm that do not feel the pressure of my fingers, since 2000, and it still continues.

Presently I feel body areas under my right hand and fingers on my left arm, but my left arm does not feel the same fingers any deeper than the skin, no matter how deep I push against the painful areas of my Left Lower arm.  The pressure push feels like pushing into a deep raw bruise.


Since Then

There were many interstitial circumstances, at least from my living time, varying things between September 2014 and the Summer of 2016, but most were minor enough to not be specifically remembered.

But during the Winter and Spring of 2016 I had

  • trouble with my right shoulder, causing me to use my LEFT Forearm a lot more than over the previous 2 years.
  • My left shoulder was definitely weakened because of not being exercised properly because a leaning function in our narrow hall, 23 inches wide OR less with sliding door only partially open, in
  • July 2016, caused me to dislocate my Left Shoulder ROTATOR CUFF in more than 3 areas.

This was proven after it was brought back into position August 28th, the MRI results done in October 2016 showed there was more than one area of injury which I’m still getting care for.  The only way I was taken seriously by the doctor was my lie about the so called level of pain I was feeling, since it was disruptive AND no care for deeper injuries was ever received.

This wasn’t nice, but it was easier than suffering more shitty assessments, but the original shoulder brace shifted something else in my lower left arm…

Associated Posts

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#01. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments CAN CAUSE MORE BODY DAMAGE

#02- PAIN Assessments Corresponding with UTI’s

#03. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with A HIGH PAIN Tolerance

#04- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with JUST Rate Pain from 0 to 10

#05- Inaccurate Doctoral PAIN Assessments based on Guesses

#06- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments because of no Patient Pain Understanding

#07- Inaccurate PAIN Ratings with NO Applicable Associations

#08- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments MADE a BIT Better

#09- Detailing Diaries Could Limit Inaccurate PAIN Assessments

#10- A PAIN & Injury Diary MAY Change Inaccurate Doctoral ASSESSMENTS

Rhapsodie’s Visual PAIN Diary- From September 2013 into April 2017

 Rhapsodie’s ideas to improve Medical ASSESSMENTS by doctors

PAIN Variables

 

#13- Visual PAIN Diary- July 2014- Painful Pokey Boney Walk

As was shared with the previous post- #12- Visual PAIN Diary- June 2014- Father’s Day Weekend after the work to repair my leg you would think that if there were other injuries with my arm, I could also work them into repair.  But there is a great factor hindering me, it is the plate that still exists in my arm.  If that plate was gone, I could have put the bone fully back in position just as I originally did with my lower left leg.

From the visuals a person who is trying to understand the pain another is feeling can also relate better with the situations that led to actions based on feelings that may not necessarily be understandable without the visual connections. I’m not talking about pain alone, but how different aspects of nature can vary the actions of the person who took actions that are not understood fully by others.

Please remember that I have to make visualizations because there were no photos taken previous to suffering the many problems that resulting from real injuries AND multiple doctoral inaccurate assessments that are causing pain.  At times PAIN that has been severe enough to cause me to get nauseous or weak AND to become more and more incapacitated with doctor’s not making assessments properly because of their inaccurate basis of PAIN assessments.

The July 2014 Pokey Boney Walk

On an excursion to from the mailbox in July of 2014, the extent of the Father’s Day Weekend Fall of JUNE 2014 was demonstrated. Pulling the mail out of the box with my right hand was done, and it was passed into my left, but something popped.  It wasn’t too bad that instant, but the joggling mail envelops made things worse.

(A) Natural Walking Arm Angle

I felt like a raw scab was being ripped inside my left arm, and with a single inaccurate step I almost passed out.

The PAIN was on the lower side of my arm. The pressure on the skin shifted as I moved my arm, eventually though clumsily my right hand located a slight protuberance poking away from my left arm.  For all who have never scraped themselves and crawled on the injury, the pressure pain, from the arm with the protruding bone resting against the skin below, felt like having a raw scrape that was cared for land repeatedly on gravel against the exact same location.

(B) Raised View of LEFT Forearm

Raising my arm, caused the ache to intensify against the skin, but it minimized the scraping scratching raw pain of shifting bone weight. My right hand couldn’t really find the problem after my arm was lifted at a certain angle, but there was an angle of touch that was sickening.  The closest place was over 100 yards away from where I was standing, I HAD TO DO SOMETHING!

Shifting the mail, and trying to rub the pain away, was not helping things were getting worse.  I needed to see the problem, so capturing the mail against my chest with my partially raised LEFT arm allowed me to work on getting rid of more pain.  Working to view the situation took some effort.

My view of the painful area was not easy to see from my natural viewpoint as shown in this mirror image here. The red mark on the sketch is approximately the location of where Pokey Boney was located on my Left Forearm.

(C ) Pokey Boney Injury Sketch

With my arm across my lower breast there was nothing to see, I had to shift my wrist down while raising my shoulder up to get the bone to act like it did with my arm down.

OUCH!

Finally I saw the issue, though I felt a lot in the meantime. I do not have an accurate view to share with you, so this picture has been sketched with an oversized  Pokey Boney addition.

Please remember that the bone was trying to poke out of my skin, I was alone in the yard, the house was so far away, I had to do something.  Shaking my head to keep me from  stumbling into the darkening or collapsing from pain, I shoved my Pokey Boney down away from the skin, but NOT back into place.

The amount on a pain scale was about a 6 with my arm down, but with the arm up against my chest it was only depleted with shoving the Pokey Boney back into place behind the plate.  It didn’t go back onto the bone, but at least it wasn’t sticking out any more…

Associated Posts

Please forgive me, but you’ll likely want to right click and open in a new tab, because the click link MAY NOT WORK.

#01. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments CAN CAUSE MORE BODY DAMAGE

#02- PAIN Assessments Corresponding with UTI’s

#03. Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with A HIGH PAIN Tolerance

#04- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments with JUST Rate Pain from 0 to 10

#05- Inaccurate Doctoral PAIN Assessments based on Guesses

#06- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments because of no Patient Pain Understanding

#07- Inaccurate PAIN Ratings with NO Applicable Associations

#08- Inaccurate PAIN Assessments MADE a BIT Better

#09- Detailing Diaries Could Limit Inaccurate PAIN Assessments

#10- A PAIN & Injury Diary MAY Change Inaccurate Doctoral ASSESSMENTS

Rhapsodie’s Visual PAIN Diary- From September 2013 into April 2017

 Rhapsodie’s ideas to improve Medical ASSESSMENTS by doctors

PAIN Variables

 

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